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How to Know Exactly When (And When NOT) To Kiss a Girl

11/19/2015

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Five years ago, I was at this big house party, reuniting with some old friends after a crazy summer in Poland. Suddenly, this tall, handsome dude walked in the door. I swear -- to me, he looked like he was standing in a beam of sunshine (even though it was 10:30pm). The moment he entered the room, he saw me, too. And even though he was all the way on the other side of a crowded room, he walked straight over to me. At least two other girls stepped into his path and tried to hit on him, but he brushed them politely aside and continued towards me. I was the only girl he wanted to talk to that night. 
We clicked -- there was some cool, supernatural thing going on between us. We talked and laughed for hours as we migrated from the party to a moonlit trail, and, finally, back to my car. It was time to say goodnight -- and he was so gorgeous in the moonlight. As I got out my keys, I thought to myself, "I definitely like this guy enough to kiss him... We've talked about so much! But... I don't think we should, yet. Someday, OMG YES. But not yet." And then, after texting me to make sure I had his number, he did it.

He went for the hug.

That was five years ago. And I will never forget how much more certain I felt about that guy in that moment. How respected I felt -- how in-tune with my thoughts and body language this guy seemed to be. But also, how special it made me feel. Sometimes, it feels like every motherfucker I spend more than five minutes talking to thinks he should try to kiss me. But this guy had spent hours​ talking to me, and didn't act like he was entitled to anything. 

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Many guys think a lot about when is the "right" time to kiss a girl -- after one date? After two dates? Three? To some degree, they're right to worry -- I've lost track of the number of dudes I never want to see again because they tried to kiss me too soon. If they actually care about me and have social skills and basic human decency, they won't try to kiss me before I'm ready. On the other hand, I will never, ever forget the dudes who waited respectfully for the "right" time. 

So how do you know when is the right time? As it happens, I give great kissing advice:​
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See? I'm a kissing advice EXPERT!
And I may be just the person to answer this question -- borrowing from my recent post, Dear Confused Dude: If You Had to Grab Her By the Back of the Head and Force Your Faces Together, It Wasn't a "Kiss." 

I'm going to start with the basic assumption that you are a decent human being for whom consent is extremely important. Because, let's be real: an unwanted kiss is disgusting. And if you impose some sort of unwanted kiss on her, she's probably going to tell all of her friends that you are a creep. Or that you're creepy. And, you know what? She's right. If you're kissing people who don't want to be kissed, you are being creepy. Remember: consent is super sexy.

That said:

When It's Okay to Kiss a Girl

1. You don't have to either restrain her or surprise her to make the kiss happen. Remember: an unwanted kiss is disgusting. Consent is sexy. If you have to be quick, sneaky or forceful to get the kiss, you're doing it wrong, and the girl will definitely not be into it. 

2. You ask if you may kiss her -- and she says yes. Some men mistakenly believe that "asking will kill the mood." Trust me -- if she wants to kiss you, it absolutely won't. She'll say yes! Unless maybe she wants to but she's just not quite ready yet. Then she'll say no -- this time. But! She'll feel super safe and respected with you, which will help solidify your bond.

But yeah. Seriously, don't worry about "killing the mood." When a guy I want to kiss asks if he can kiss me, it makes me want to kiss him even more! And when a guy I don't want to kiss asks if he can kiss me, I say no -- but I really appreciate that he used his words, so that I could tell him no before his face and body were moving towards mine. 

3. She makes the first move. It's 2015. Plenty (but, admittedly, not all) of girls are willing to make the first move! And it's super sexy when they do.

Just, you know. If she's had a lot to drink, you should ask yourself whether she's really able to give consent right now. Especially if you're hoping to have a long-term thing with her. Kissing her when she's drunk is going to mess up your chances of ever having trust.


4. You have a "moment." Refer back to Point 1. Mutual, consensual kisses are not "stolen." They are not fast. They are not sudden or sneaky. Instead, they come after a moment. Perhaps you've been staring into each other's eyes -- then lips. Then eyes, then lips. Maybe she's touched the side of your hand with the side of her hand, and now you're holding hands. Parts of your bodies may be touching -- your arms, your legs. Maybe you've even pushed her hair off her face or brushed her cheek with your hand. Your bodies are gravitating towards each other...

But even then, there's room for misinterpretation. Just because some people do the whole hookup culture thing, doesn't mean we all are. And even then -- just because someone is into hookup culture, doesn't mean they necessarily want to kiss you right now, even if the sparks are flying and the chemistry is totally there. The only way to make sure the kiss is consensual is to:

5. Follow the 90-10 rule. AFTER you've had a moment, and you're feeling pretty certain this girl wants to kiss you, you can initiate the kiss. Go up to 90% of the way to her face... then stop. Wait a moment. If consent is important to you (which, if you're not a despicable person, it is), you will never go 100% of the way to her face. Let her go the last 10%. If she wants to kiss you, she will! 

If you follow the 90-10 rule, you will always know that the kiss you shared was mutually wanted. If you go 100% of the way, you'll never be 100% certain. 

When It's NOT Okay to Kiss a Girl

1. You barely know her. I mean, personally, I feel like it's weird to even touch a person you barely know. Do you know if she's got a boyfriend? Do you know if she's religious? Do you know if she's from a culture in which it's very taboo for a man to touch a woman? Do you know if this person ​wants to be touched by you? If not... maybe keep your hands off. 

But, of course, I'm biased. I used to be best friends with this gorgeous Persian girl, whose family was Muslim. In her culture, men didn't touch women. But, unfortunately, in the U.S., many men have no respect for women's boundaries... and, as a result, I was horrified to see people touching this girl all the time, even when it clearly made her uncomfortable.

And, yeah, she always had the option of directly confronting them by saying, "Get your arm off of me!" "Can you stop touching my leg?" or even, "WHY DID YOU JUST PICK ME UP? PUT ME DOWN!" But that's putting her in an uncomfortable situation -- direct confrontation is hard for everyone​. Especially people who don't know if you're a "nice guy" or a psychokiller or what. 
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But, yeah. If you don't know someone well enough to know if she's comfortable with you kissing or touching her, then maybe it's not a good idea to kiss or touch her. 

(And, like, obviously, there are exceptions to this -- which is why you should follow the rules in the "When It's Okay to Kiss a Girl" section.)

2. She went for the hug. A hug -- especially one she initiated at the end of a date -- is her way of telling you that she does not want to kiss you tonight. Don't be an idiot and try to convince yourself that she somehow misinterpreted your nonverbal request for a kiss. Women are experts at reading body language and sexual intent. If she turned her face away from yours and went for the hug, it's because she didn't want to kiss you. It's kind of like that thing boxers do when they don't want you punching them anymore:
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Translation: PLEASE don't try to kiss me -- I just want a hug.
3. She says she doesn't want you to walk her home/drive her home/go to the next bar with her/be near her anymore.  If you offered to walk me home and I said no, that means I don't want you walking me home. That means I don't want you trying to put the moves on me. I don't want to find someplace we can be alone. I don't want to continue this conversation right now.

If I wanted you to come, I'd invite you. I'd say, "I'm parked over here -- walk me to my car!"

"Do you want to come in?"

"The girls and I are headed to Rick's Bar next -- do you want to come?"

But if I don't invite you, that means you're not invited. 

4. You touched her hand, cheek, leg, or any other part of her, and she pulled away. If she doesn't want you touching her, she doesn't want you kissing her. But don't beat yourself up -- love is a numbers game. Not everyone you meet is going to be attracted to you. Not everyone's going to be ready to kiss you when you're ready to kiss them. But there truly is someone for everyone, so don't give up.

5. She says she doesn't want to kiss you. It is literally never, ever, ever, ever, EVER up to you to "interpret her body language." If her voice says no, it doesn't matter if you think her "tone and body language said yes." In fact, according to I Pressed Criminal Charges, Even Though He "Only" Touched My Face, Neck, Arms, Back and Legs, you don't even have to kiss the person to get in serious trouble for this. If someone says no, you fucking stop.

​Or, in the words of Louis C.K.,
"What are you, out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just gonna rape you on the off chance that, hopefully, you're into that shit?!"

I'll say it again: never, ever, ever presume to "interpret" a woman's nonverbal consent after she's told you no.​

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Things didn't end up working out with that dreamy guy from the beginning of my post -- but we did go on to have several amazing weeks together. We danced. We explored the outdoors. And, when the time was right, we kissed! And kissed and kissed. But, probably, none of that explosively awesome kissing would have happened if he'd ignored my boundaries or body language and tried to kiss me too soon. 

​I'm really glad he didn't.
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30 Comments
kd
7/14/2016 12:48:23 am

nice really helpful guide 👍🏽

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Angus
4/17/2019 07:47:03 pm

Thanks this is rlly helpfull. I have a girlfriend and pn monday we had our first kids. Thanks ro this articke. Very glad , i almost forgot the 90-10 rule but pulled it off luckily!!

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Angus
4/17/2019 07:49:14 pm

O gosh . First kiss sorry. XD im only 12 lol

MyName DoesNotMatter
12/20/2017 12:09:25 am

Well I'm a 47 year old guy who hasn't even kissed anyone for that matter. Ya. That right. I'm a 47 year old virgin who hasn't even kissed a woman. I guess that must mean I'm fat, really unattractive, cooties or {fill in whatever ignorant stereotype about older virgins society has about them}.

Funny thing is that I once asked a woman if I could kiss her(which was almost 20 years ago) and she said no. I guess she wasn't into me even though she once admitted to me she never had the kind of discussions she had with me including her ex husband. She even invited me to her apartment and cooked me a meal(no sex though. She came from a different culture and I obviously wasn't the kind to push sex just like that). She was divorced, 7 years older than me and felt here biological cock was ticking but since I was unemployed I think she felt I was too much of a risk. Oh well. Chronic unemployment has been a big problem in my life and as a result I don't put any effort into looking for anything related to romance not to mention that I'm very conscious of my status as a virgin as an older age which also makes me less likely to put effort into anything related to Romance.

Well anyway she turned out to be a racist bigot where she made very bigoted statements about Mexicans and Jews. She also turned out to be a liar. I only knew she was 7 years older than me when I did an intelius search on her a while back after we long ago stopped communicating(Ya she never told me her age which should have been a big red flag right there). What is really pathetic is that she apparently did some running competitions that were listed online and the age she put down was 10 years younger than her actual age(it was her because her name is very very unique. There really is only one person that comes up with that name in the entire US that I know of). So clearly in retrospect it was good that I never got involved with her even though at the time I thought I was in love. Not sure now.

I'm so out of the loop. Dating/relationships/sex/kissing.Its like looking at an alien world and trying to understand what its all about. Not that I'm not interested in doing it. I'm really really interested in doing it but as a 47 year old who hasn't even kissed a woman its not like I can just just decide to start now as if the women I would date or have sex with would be around my age with experiences closer to mine. There are so many more complications now that I'm 47 and have no interest in seeing a prostitute. Part of the allure of having sex I would think is believing that the other person you're having sex with also thinks your desirable and obviously a prostitute wouldn't have sex with me because she finds my desirable because its her job.

Sorry for the long rant. I don't get to communicate with people much. I'm very isolated. Hope I don't die a virgin but thats the way its looking. Never wanted to be that way but I guess thats life. Things just don't always work out the way you thought they would. Oh well. Life goes on or maybe it doesn't go on anymore. We will see.

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Caroline (Your name does matter)
12/24/2017 04:04:47 pm

Hi your post touched me so much. Your name does matter to me. You are an autonomous human being of God's light and as such are worthy of love. Don't give up. I believe there is someone out there for everyone and you're just showing up a little late to the party. If I could be with you now in person I would say yes to a kiss and who knows maybe more. I am sending you strong energy this Christmas and since God answers my prayers I am praying that your one and only is on her way. Amen.

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MyName DoesNotMatter
12/24/2017 10:14:33 pm

Thanks but I'm an agnostic.

47YrVirgDudeAgain
2/14/2018 08:31:57 am

Happy Valentine's day Caroline. May whoever your with on this day spoil you rotten.

FortySevenYear OldVirginAgain
12/31/2017 11:03:34 am

YA its me again. About this quote from me " I guess that must mean I'm fat, really unattractive, cooties or {fill in whatever ignorant stereotype about older virgins society has about them}. "

You know I've been researching(googling) for a long time attitudes among women on adult virgins. Over and over again I find rank ignorant bigotry about adult virgins like this one on some dating site forum

"I was dating a really nice guy not too long ago, and I found out he was a virgin. It wasn't because of school, and it wasn't because he was too busy. It was because he was socially awkward in his teens and early 20's. Well, that was a red flag for me. Sure he wasn't socially awkward anymore, but still. It bugged me. So I dumped his ass. He was devestated, so that just shows that virgins are probably just going to be clingy after sex anyway. No woman is going to want a virgin who is 30. that;s how old he was. 30. "

or this from the same site
"For me, it's a total turn off. I'm looking for an ADULT relationship, not some pre-pubescent thing where we say we're a couple yet are really just friends."

The implication is the adult virgins are pre-pubescent and not interested in sex.

Same poster also said
"I would think something is seriously wrong with someone in their 30s who is still a virgin personally (even those who choose to do so for religious reasons, for me, are strange, as I see it as being brainwashed and repressed)."

same poster also said this
"Again, being in my 30s, I have no interest whatsoever in having to teach a man how to please a woman. I want someone who can bring something to the table and perhaps even teach me a few new tricks (as I may be able to teach him some), but I don't want to have to take someone by the hand to do it; I want someone who at least has an IDEA about what to do rather than having to tell/show him EVERYTHING. It's one thing to explore your sexuality with a partner and learn more about what pleases each other; it's a completely separate thing if they can bring nothing to the table and you have to do everything. "

What off the charts ignorance.Its one thing to think that there would be some kind of learning curve but its an entire level of stupidity to think that a non-virgin would literally have to teach the virgin "EVERYTHING" as she literally put it. That would mean she thinks she would have to literally show the virgin guy where the vagina is and tell him that he is supposed to put his penis into her vagina. How can anyone be so dense to think a virgin wouldn't know at least that basic level of knowledge especially given that we live in the age of the internet where anyone can google porn or sex ed vids to show the actual insertion? I'm not trying to imply that is all there is to sex but the point is that she literally used the word "everything", so again that would include such basic knowledge as knowing that vaginal penetration would mean inserting your penis into a woman's vagina and she apparently thinks virgins are so clueless that they wouldn't even know that.

Its posts like that make me wonder where the ignorance really is here? Is there more ignorance from virgins about sex or more ignorance from non-virgins about what virgins understand and know about sex?

The internet is replete with ignorant bigoted posts about adult virgins just like the above. What gets me is that if you ask these posters if they think their views are unique and they would most likely say something like "No they don't think they are unique". In fact I quoted above one of the posts that said "No woman is going to want a virgin who is 30. that;s how old he was. 30. "

But here is the thing. If they believe their negative view of adult virgins isn't unique and is common, then if they put even a few seconds thought further, then they could see one important explanation to why adult virgins are adult virgins which is there are a lot of people that are bigoted towards adult virgins and assume the worst out of them and hence there are many who wouldn't even consider Adult virgins simply because they are older virgins(and stigma and bigotry of course only increases as the adult virgin gets older). The point is that this explanation has NOTHING to do with any supposed flaw of the adult virgin but the bigotry and prejudice of society that assumes certain things about the adult virgin.

Unfortunately bigots are by their very nature very shallow and don't think things through so they wouldn't take next step that goes from understanding many also share their bigotry(they probably wouldn't even view it as bigotry although I know that one woman admitted it was bigotry but still seemed to justify it because it was a "preference") to understand that mass bigotry
would make it that much more difficult for an adult virgin to get laid.

So most adult virgins understand this bigotry is out there. With that in mind that is only going to make adult virgins that much more cautious in trying to get laid.


T

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Eva Glasrud link
12/31/2017 05:04:50 pm

Sure. There are people who would find anything to be a turn-off -- while others find it a turn-on. Plenty of women love the idea of "de-flowering" a man -- did you think that fantasy was unique to men?.

A lot of people, especially progressive types, espouse that your "number" doesn't matter -- so, really, if you're with someone like that, it doesn't even necessarily have to come up that you're a virgin unless you want it to. (To me, the number does matter, though. I wouldn't want to date someone who'd had a lot of partners, because it signals that sex isn't meaningful to them, and that's a major incompatibility. If the person isn't forthcoming about their number, it's like they have something to hide or can't be honest with me, and THAT is a red flag.)

Based on your previous interaction with Caroline, though, I kind of feel like your problem is less that women don't like you, and more than when women show you care or compassion, you may be rejecting it. Of course, this is based on one online interaction, but it's something to think about.

What?
5/30/2018 03:48:48 am

What she "never told you her age which is a big read flag"'. I'm confused by the this statement. I have gone out with / romanced / lived with / dated various women over the years. On several occasions, for example one lady who I lived with for three years and on another occasion a lady I dated for two years I did no know their ages. The first lady was, I assume, at least the same age as me or older based on her life history ( university and post grad degree ) so at least 25. The second lady, I assumed was five to ten years older than me but could have been a few years younger based on the age of her children. Their ages did not even come into my radar range when considering whether to have a relationship with them

Re: "looking for a women around my age with experiences closer to mine". Why restrict yourself? Are you concerned that you need a women with similar experiences to have any chance of dating them? I have personally found that to be incorrect. Variety is great and I don't mean in a sleazy.
Good luck.

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HUH-ImConfused to
7/9/2018 11:32:19 am

How could you possibly not know the age of a woman you lived with 3 years and another woman you dated for 2 years? You say you're confused. Well I'm beyond confused by what you said

Wow
9/16/2018 09:31:42 pm

Hating on women. Loser

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ThatWasA-StupidReply
11/1/2018 12:35:28 pm

There was no hating on women in that response.

Eric
9/27/2020 03:58:49 pm

By any chance you have been taking antidepressants like Prozac? It could be a big sex libido killer and makes you "awkward" in romantic situation

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FortySevenYear OldVirginAgain
12/31/2017 05:51:07 pm


Hey what do you know if it isn't the in shape Stanford(what a catch) grad responding. Nice to hear from you Eva

Ok first there wasn't any reply button to your post so I'm putting it here

First about the deflowering. Ya I'm aware of that but its been my understanding that the fantasy was almost always towards the younger virgins and that after a guy gets older gets more odd.

About Caroline, I know it might of come across a certain way but I didn't intend it that way. I just kind of thought by how many times she mentioned God the way she did that maybe she thought I was religious but I'm not(I once was for a short spell when I was 24/25 but certainly not now). As I said I'm an agnostic and left of center progressive. Truth be told I actually loved her response. It made me feel really good and it even kind of gave me a bit of hope. She sounds like a really sweet woman.


Caroline if you're reading this and read my reply, I hope you didn't take my response as an angry response, I didn't intend that to be the case. I very much liked your response

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FortySevenYear OldVirginAgain
12/31/2017 09:57:53 pm

Oh one more point I forgot to mention in response to Eva and specifically this comment: "A lot of people, especially progressive types, espouse that your "number" doesn't matter -- so, really, if you're with someone like that, it doesn't even necessarily have to come up that you're a virgin unless you want it to."


Kissing almost always comes before actual sex correct? But like I said I haven't kissed yet and odds are I will not able to hide that fact. Therefore once its known that was my first kiss then it would be deduced that I'm also a virgin correct?

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Caroline
1/2/2018 08:12:09 am

Hi FSYOVA, I am glad you liked my post and did not take offense at your reply. It does not matter to me what your beliefs are as they have no bearing on the power of my convictions and faith. The true love of my Creator includes 4 basic tenets; mutual affection, respect, trust and free will.
If I may address your last comment to Eva, kissing is not such a fine art and not very complex. Literally within seconds you catch on. Yes, in my experience some are better at it then others but having said that as long as you stick to the basics of respect; ie: not french kissing on the first kiss and being gentle you will be fine and I doubt anyone would know it was your first kiss.

Prince joel link
2/8/2020 10:15:49 pm

What should I do to the girl I just met sometimes she says she feels abt me she will hug me, touch me but when I ask for a kiss she says she does not love kissx an has never done it. An some times she does not response to my words towards her even dough I show her effort by doing every thin to make her happy but she still not responds. Some days back she said she does not love me but when I try to be gentle before her when she ask me to live her side I do live but some days ahead when she sees me she immediately hugs me an said she is sort. But ask her of a kiss she refuses. So please I want to no if she loves me or not an what to do. Am 26yrs old an am a boy

John
9/17/2018 11:17:55 pm

The right time to kiss a woman is never. Don't look at them, approach them, or talk to them. For heaven's sake don't ask them out, and don't ever marry one. Women are toxic and dangerous, and men are better off without them.

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A. Lesbian
2/9/2020 03:35:02 pm

Agree totally! The sooner that guys realise they should steer clear of women and stick to their own sex, the better.

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Plageron
1/12/2019 02:44:28 am

I went out with this girl I like, and I tried kissing her when she was leaving for class, And it turned into a disaster.
A single cheek kiss and she was upset with me. She told me after that, we are just friends only nothing more ever.
And she told me she didn't want to see me for a while.
She told me not to tell anyone, but I find the situation to be a bit over the top.
she didn't try to stop me either, she waited about 30 minutes later after it had happened.
I am not sure what to make of it.
If anything its more proof that you simply cant trust anyone.
And sorry to the responders, but this has shown me love is over blown and over rated, its a farce created to make people think good things will happen.

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Eva Glasrud
1/12/2019 10:07:36 am

There are a million reasons why things might have turned out not as expected. One is that the girl thought you were "hanging out," and you thought it was a date. One is that you live in a very conservative culture or are very young, and kissing someone on the cheek is a big deal. One is that you kissed her in front of other people, which made her feel uncomfortable. One is she felt she'd been clear about only wanting to be friends and felt disrespected or ignored. Without knowing either of you, it's impossible to say.

The "she didn't try to stop me" confusion happens sometimes. Sometimes, women don't know how to respond to a situation (see also: http://www.thehappytalent.com/blog/todays-women-feel-less-control-over-their-bodies-than-their-grandmas-did-because-of-smartphones), or they feel like they nonverbally communicated something you should have perceived -- which can be an unfair expectation, but that's why I recommend asking first.

Sometimes, 30 minutes is how long it takes to simmer and decide that something irritated you. For example, I was friends with this guy, once. I told him about this "lip plumper" I bought from Victoria's Secret, and how it's supposed to make your lips all poofy and sexy and stuff because one of the ingredients is pepper spray, which I found amusing. His reply:

"What do you do to feel sexy?"

Which was SO gross and inappropriate. In the moment, I told him, "Absolutely nothing. What do YOU do to feel sexy? Huh? What do YOU do? No answer? What do you do to feel sexy?" I was hoping he'd realize what a gross and stupid thing he'd asked... and I guess he did?

Nevertheless, 30 minutes later, I realized I just never wanted to see him again, because why would he ask such a thing? What is WRONG with him.

It's kind of ridiculous you'd go from an unwanted kiss on the cheek to "this is proof you can't trust anyone." Maybe just be clearer with your intentions and ask first next time? Love is definitely not overblown -- it's the greatest thing of all time. It's just also kind of a numbers game. You've got to meet a lot of people to find one you like and/or one who likes you.

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John
10/31/2019 11:38:10 pm

Please read my comment above again. Of course it was a disaster - you went out with a woman. How else could it turn out? There is nothing good that can come from being with any woman. They are toxic and dangerous.

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Victor link
2/27/2020 06:32:26 pm

Honestly, aside from any other commendable remark I could make about this article, I just want to express how refreshingly honest and relevant your comments were, that fact that I resonated with every perspective you offered on this subject was refreshing. Refreshing because of its pertinence and relatability for me in my situation. Pleasantly surprising because of you authenticity, transparency and entirely relatable outlook on these types of situations people navigate in their respective lives. Nothing generic, bland or generalised about your post. It was realistic, admirable and edifying to read such a refreshingly honest opinion. No bullshit, no embellishment or generalisation. Just entirely down to earth & useful!

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Patrick
11/2/2020 03:08:50 am

Hi, I'm Patrick. I do want to thank you for this post because it has been helpful for me right now after what did happen between me and a lady two days ago which the led to a kind of a mistake but however, there was a kind of concern. Infact we had to kiss each other and the next day she said that wouldn't be repeated anymore. Though that said, I tried to contact her to discuss with her about that but she said there was nothing to talk about and that what did happen was just a case and so no need to talk about anything. So since I have feelings for her, is it necessary to text her again that's to say not giving up? thanks for your answer.

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Eric
11/2/2020 12:26:29 pm

I say dont text her anymore. She will text you back! If not, find the next girl you got your answer.

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Allen
4/17/2022 07:53:37 pm

I never get signs from women that they have any sexual interest in me whatsoever - so I’ve never kissed any woman. At 48 and fundamentally unattractive, so although I’d love to meet a woman who’s attracted to me in a sexual way, I know that won’t happen. And I won’t pay for it either. I have many women friends and sadly, that’s as far as it can ever go.

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Erik
4/29/2022 08:08:07 pm

Do you feel the kind of upbeat aroused heighten thrill kind of energy around any of your female friends? If you do I bet 90% of the time they've felt the same thing and would not object to be kissed!

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Camila
6/7/2025 01:18:45 am

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6/7/2025 02:03:35 am

I had two kids for my husband and he left me because he was seeing another younger woman.I was so heartbroken because I wasn’t expecting us to separate because of a little quarrel we had after I tried so other means that I win him back all seem abortive, on a good day I was on a Facebook page and i saw a comment of many people talk about how they got reconciled with their partners through the help of man name dr olorun, on how he helped them included with a lady sharing her testimony how dr olorun save her marriage then I was fully convinced i decided to give it a try after 48hours he dr olorun did his magic spell i can proudly say am happy in my marriage now after the intervention of dr olorun on my marriage because now my husband is back to us, and we are living happily with love and respect in our home all thanks to this dr olorun for his great work. you too having any similar challenge can reach him via his email : [email protected] or WhatsApp : +2349057688760.

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