I guess I should warn you that there are some disturbing images later in this article.
Catcalling is gross and shitty. I can't even begin to fathom why someone would do such a thing -- you know, unless it's one of those non-stranger, consensual sort of catcall situations. The issue was recently captured in a viral video created by Hollaback!, a non-profit and movement to end street harassment:
Different groups are upset for all kinds of different reasons. Some object to calling this street harassment -- especially because the girl in the video is wearing "tight pants," or because, "Hey, beautiful," is actually a nice compliment.
Yeah. Real nice. Check out the full comic here.
Another popular objection to the video is that it features mostly low-income minorities -- almost as though the white street harassers were edited out.
Hollaback! admits that there were more white catcallers than the video represents, but says that many were off camera or muttered inaudibly. Not to mention that the woman in the video was walking mainly through nonwhite neighborhoods. But one of the comments I noticed on the Youtube video suggested, "A PhD or CEO would never do this." And there's truth to that-- this particular kind of harassment isn't acceptable in most educated communities. Yet I wouldn't say that lower-income men harass more. They just harass differently.
Highly educated/high SES men harass in bars, at work, at professional events and parties. They harass by learning little psychological manipulations that make women feel vulnerable, insecure or obligated to accept unwanted advances. They learn the ways to violate a woman's physical space -- in just such a way that, should the woman say something, people would think, "Calm down, lady! All he did was touch your hair/neck/hand/arm/whatever! It's not a big deal!"
They learn to position their bodies in ways that make it difficult for the woman to create more space for herself when the guy gets too close (with her back against the wall, with him in the middle and her against the arm of the couch, etc.). They learn clever ways to ignore or refute her when she says she doesn't want them to walk her home/walk her to her door/enter her home. They invite women out to coffee as friends, or to discuss a job opportunity... only to act all date-ly and make weird advances day-of. (If your intentions are romantic/sexual, you need to make that clear. Otherwise, you have no right to complain when the woman rejects you or gets offended by your hidden intentions.) They learn how to get women to submit to unwanted sexual contact... and then make her feel guilty, like she somehow deserved it or consented to it or wanted it. Both forms of harassment are threatening in their own ways, and there's obviously a pretty big spectrum (an action can be very low-level threatening, or it can be very imminent and overt). Maybe there's a 99% chance the guy saying, "Hey beautiful," doesn't want to hurt you -- maybe it truly is just a compliment about your body. But there's also a nonzero chance that, should you reject him or ignore him or respond the wrong way, he'll slice your face open with a knife. This happened recently in SF -- and it wasn't a one-time thing.
On the other end of the spectrum, you've got dudes like Elliot Rodger, who resent (and even go online to talk about killing) the women who reject them. You've got men like the stalker in the disgusting Maroon 5 video for "Animal" -- which I actually heard playing on the radio recently. Like there are people out there who actually think this song is cute or romantic or funny.
One part shows him repeatedly trying to talk to his victim at a bar, and she ignores him each time.
It's a familiar enough story. In fact, the same thing happened to 19-year-old Monique Henville at a nightclub in Cambridge. Except here's what happened to her after she rejected the guy:
In her own words:
"A guy approached me and when I ignored him, he poured alcohol in my face and smashed a glass on my face.
And here's what happened to a young girl in in Shanghai when she ignored the advances of a man in a bar:
“Basically it happened after I said I wouldn't dance with him. “He kept coming after me, and then he poured champagne over me. When I asked him to go away, he did it again.
So yeah. There are catcallers -- and there are men who choose to ignore a woman's words, body language and flat-out rejections in "safe" environments. Hopefully these images will help you realize why this behavior can so easily be perceived as so (low-level) threatening. Even if you're out in public with all of your friends and security guards at the door... that persistent guy who just won't back off could still shatter your jaw or mess up your face. He probably won't. But he could.
So, predictably, what's going to happen next is that some dumbass is going to be all like:
Which, if you have any intelligence whatsoever and have been reading the words written on this page, you know is sort of the opposite of my point.
My point (in case you happen to lack intelligence and need me to spell it out) is that, as a decent human being, you need to be aware of and respect peoples' verbal and nonverbal cues. If you try to talk to someone and they ignore you -- LEAVE THEM ALONE! THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED. If you keep pushing when she shows no interest, you're no different from that creepy guy in the catcall video who walked alongside the woman for five whole minutes. If you see a woman you might be interested in and you want to talk to her (and the situation is appropriate) -- go for it! But don't do it in a way that leaves her feeling cornered. Don't (literally or figuratively) make her feel like her back is against the wall. Don't touch her in ways that seem to make her uncomfortable -- I don't care what your pickup coach or sexologist or whatever said about "violating her physical space." If she says she's leaving and she doesn't invite you, that means you're not invited. If she says she doesn't need a ride home, that means she doesn't need a ride home. If you're doing something sexually and she says to stop, that's not just her coy, crafty, woman-way of telling you yes. It actually means no. Listen to what she says, observe what she does, and respect her. If you don't, you are in no way different from the street harassers. *** And now, my side rant: I don't know much about the pickup artist community, nor have I read The Game by Neil Strauss. But based on what little I do know, it seems like many of its strategies are inherently flawed. A lot of men who get into the community do it because they have a hard time meeting women. They're often not even looking for sex -- they're looking for a girlfriend. But when you use tactics like these, the best you're going to get is a one-night sort of deal. If you make a girl feel uncomfortable and disrespected, she won't want to see you again. (Kind of like how the catcallers never get dates with the women they harass.) Yes, confidence and social skills are important. But you can develop these things in ways that... you know. Aren't manipulative and intimidating. Start by reading These Specific Behaviors Will Make You More Charismatic -- Starting Right Now. If you like it, buy The Charisma Myth: How Anyone Can Master the Art and Science of Personal Magnetism. The great thing about this book is that its principles apply equally well to any social or professional situation -- whether you're presenting to a board or wooing a client or trying to chat up a woman at a party. It's not about manipulating. It's about being genuine and present. It's about overcoming self-doubt and negative thoughts. It's about respect. End rant. ***
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Jordan Fischer
11/5/2017 08:51:58 am
It's all fine and dandy to be like "Heh! Just read out non-verbal ques, that's all, it's not hard, idiots!" But that doesn't help most people. Non-verbal cues are EXTREMELY subtle. And YES, women can and DO play hard to get, I know you had to refute that because it undermines your ideas in a way. Men NEED to do shit like randomly touch an arm, your hair, etc, to be able to finally get an actually gaugeable reaction. I remember sitting on a couch with a girl who I thought was interested in me, when apparently I wasn't being 'rapey' enough, because her cousin who was also on the couch, and could sense some sort of chemistry told me to "touch her hair", I then preceded to ask if I could touch her hair, and did so. Honestly, asking before hand felt more fucking creepy and disguising than actually just doing it. She wasn't into me after that night at all either, apparently asking if wrong. So basically this article says DON'T TOUCH WITHOUT ASKING (because you probably can't read our super obscure ass body language) and! DON'T TOUCH IT BY ASKING EITHER. Basically, just don't fucking touch women, or make sexual advancements unless you're a bloody body language genius and you KNOW for SURE she actually DOES want you. I sincerely hope you end up fucking miserable and alone, a mere husk of person who is sexually used and discarded again and again by the assholes who actually do fuck you because they don't ask, and don't care, and you LIKE IT and you fucking KNOW IT. Let all the guys who probably would have helped you advance in life towards a stable family, someone to be with you when you're older - they can go to hell because they're not able to tell immediately what a woman wants based on her touching her face once, or moving her arm to the left half a millimetre. Ya, it's easy for you to say "just watch her body language" - fucking bullshit, you moron.
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Jordan Fischer
11/5/2017 08:52:53 am
"just read our non-verbal ques"**
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Rob
1/29/2018 06:26:32 pm
You’re a shitty human being
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