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I Had Shoulder Surgery, and it COMPLETELY Changed the Way My Left Armpit Smells.

9/28/2016

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​My cool cousin John is a baseball prodigy – but sadly, he had a bad dislocation this summer, and had to undergo the same shoulder surgery I had a few years ago.
 
Because he loves science, I decided to share a crazy story about my microbiome with him. And because I wish I’d had more/better information about shoulder surgery while I was deciding whether or not to have it (eventually, my body made the decision for me), I’ll conclude with a few thoughts about the pros and cons of the surgery.
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Having shoulder surgery is a lot less invasive than it used to be. Mine was an arthroscopic, outpatient procedure that probably took three hours beginning-to-end.
 
That part of it was pretty straightforward. I showed up an hour before the surgery, got a few injections, and fell asleep. I don’t really remember waking up – but I do remember that one of the last things my doctor said to me before I left was,
 
“A lot of people get yeast infections after shoulder surgery, so try to keep it as dry as you can.”
 
A yeast infection? That seemed weird…
 
Until about 15 minutes later, when my left pit was already starting to get damp, and the right one was completely dry.
 
Because normally, during the course of your day, you move your arms around pretty continuously. You scratch your head. You reach for your pen. You stretch. And each time you do, air circulates under your arms. It dries things off and cools you down.

When you’re wearing a sling for six weeks, no such circulation happens. Ever. It’s just always damp, dark and warm in your pit. It’s uncomfortable, and it’s one of the suckiest parts of the surgery. 
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But at least I got lots of attention from this little one, who wouldn't leave my side for days after the surgery.

​I didn’t end up getting a yeast infection – which didn’t surprise me. I’ve never had any other kind of yeast or fungal infection, so I'm pretty sure I'm less susceptible than others. 
 
But. Something strange happened when I finally took off my sling.
 
I didn’t smell the same. I actually smelled really bad. But only in my left pit.
 
The right one still smelled as glorious as it ever did (see also: I Stopped Wearing Deodorant, and Here’s What Happened to My Love Life, because that is some quality journalism). But the left one… it smelled stinky, and manly, and like a different person.
 
It was trippy. I mean, stinkiness aside, just imagine being alone in your house, and smelling another person you did not recognize. And then realizing that person was you.
 
I can’t explain the exactly what happened -- only that it is related to a change in my microbiome – or the microorganisms that live on my skin and in my gut. (See also: The Biggest Obstacle to Space Travel... Could be Our Microbiome.)
 
The good news is, I was able to (somewhat) correct the stinky microbiome through the following steps:
 
1. I used Hibiclens, an antimicrobial cleaner that bonds to the skin to create a protective, germ-killing field, to wash my left pit in the shower. (Apparently, it's the same stuff surgeons use before surgery. How full-circle!) Full disclosure: I know one microbiologist who recommended against this, and one geneticist who said I totally should.
 
2. I started using shampoo, rather than soap, to wash the right pit. This was at the recommendation of the microbiologist, who informed me that soap can mess up your skin's pH balance (which is bad for the microbiome). But when it comes to healthy hair and scalps, pH is super important, so shampoo is designed to preserve that. I wanted to keep my right pit's microbiome going strong, and this seemed like the best way.
 
(In the same conversation, she told me that, for this reason, it’s kind of bad to wash your dog with human shampoo, since it’s calibrated for human, not dog, skin. That’s why I switched Ruby from Panteen to Nature's Miracle -- except for one unfortunate month, when we were using Sentry Flea and Tick Shampoo.) 

3. After cleansing my left pit with the Hibiclens, I would do daily “transfers,” during which I wiped sweat from my right pit over to the left. Hopefully, with the bad bacteria knocked out, the original microbiome, brought in from the right, would have a chance flourish.
 
This worked – mostly. Once in a while, when I travel to humid locations, I start to smell a hint of the bad biome, so I know it's still around. But for the most part, it seems to be gone.
 
I have no idea how common this is. And it's definitely not a big enough concern to even be a consideration when you're deciding whether or not you want to have a fully-functioning shoulder. I’m mostly sharing the story because it’s interesting. (To me, anyway.)

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Can't play sports for four months? You can still go hiking in Joshua Tree! Bring your own water, though, because the park doesn't have any.
Now, for those who are reading this because they’re considering the shoulder surgery, here’s my two cents:
 
I put off the surgery for years, because my original dislocation tore the labrum just enough that the doctor told me, “You’re at the point where 50% of people would have the surgery, and 50% would try to fix it with physical therapy.”
 
I worked really hard in PT – but every time I thought I was making progress and feeling really strong, I’d have another dislocation.
 
After a couple of pretty bad ones, and it got to the point where I’d have dislocations in my sleep. I couldn't sleep with my arms above my head – which is sad, because that’s my favorite way to sleep.
 
Eventually, I had a dislocation that was bad enough to break the socket part of my ball-and-socket joint. The head of my humerus was dented and my labrum was torn. Sometimes, I'd lean forward, and the ball would fall out of the socket.
 
(In my doctor’s words, “Imagine a golf tee with the top of the tee broken off. Imagine trying to balance a golf ball on just the stump. That’s what you’re like right now.”)
 
At that point, PT was no longer an option.
 
I’d been reluctant to have the surgery, because I thought it was better to cure through exercise than through slicing and dicing. Because surgery is expensive. And because it wasn’t clear to me that the surgery would actually help. I knew several whitewater kayakers who'd had dislocations even after the surgery.

(In retrospect, I think their problem is that they brace high -- I've had so many dislocations that I would, intuitively, never do that. I've suffered the consequences. I know what not to do. Whereas they'd only had one dislocation, so they didn't have that learned aversion. I still whitewater kayak sometimes -- I even did my first Class IV this summer. And I've never even had a close call.)
What I learned from this experience:
 
1. Modern medicine is wonderful. It isn’t “always” better to do anything. Surgeries are safer and less invasive than ever, and I regret putting it off as long as I did.

2. People -- even otherwise very smart people -- will say incredibly stupid things. Like, "Oh, modern medicine is a huge, dangerous conspiracy! You should try acupuncture." Don't listen to them. Just because they're smart at some things, doesn't mean they have any understanding whatsoever of science, medicine, data, research, or what medical decision is best for you. 

Also: the difference between "alternative" medicine and medicine... is that medicine has been proven safe and effective, and "alternative" medicine has not. 

3. I didn't used to have health insurance, because I was an invincible 20-something. I never got sick, I never got seriously hurt, and I never visited doctors -- I did a lot of research, and concluded the whole "well-woman" exam is a sham. (I mean, unless you might have STDs or are experiencing symptoms of something.) But then Obama said he would fine people who didn’t have insurance, so I angrily picked an insurance plan -- optimizing, of course, for sports injuries. Since then, I've had one surgery, followed by several months of physical therapy; one shoulder MRI; one really bad finger dislocation (imagine a staircase), followed by x-rays and several months of physical therapy; two head wounds that needed to be stitched up; and one weird rash that I picked up in Central America -- which Google said was either cancer, meningitis, or leprosy. 

So thanks, Obama.

4. The surgery definitely helped, and my only regret is not doing it a year or two sooner. I try not to think about that too much – what’s the point in worrying about something you can’t change? I definitely don’t regret trying PT, though – if you’re at the point where you might be fine without surgery, you should at least try it.
 
But as soon as it became clear that it wasn’t working, I should have had the surgery. It could have stopped me from breaking a bone. It could have made me a stronger, healthier athlete sooner. Plus – let’s be real! – the older you get, the longer it takes you to recover. I probably would have done myself a favor by having the procedure sooner. 

5. If you live in the San Francisco Bay Area, the best possible doctor to do the surgery is Warren King. I did a lot of research before picking my surgeon. In addition to his education, he is also head Orthopedic Surgeon and Chief of Medical Staff for the Oakland Raiders, U.S. Rugby, and College of San Mateo. He's also worked for the S.F. Giants, S.J. Sharks, Golden State Warriors, USA Soccer, San Jose Blackhawks Soccer, Santa Clara University, and S.J. Giants.

I'd read a few reviews that said he had "bad bedside manner." I didn't find this to be the case at all. I showed up at my first appointment ready to stand in front of the door so he couldn't leave until he'd answered all of my questions. That ended up being completely unnecessary. He is kind, thorough and a pleasure to have met. Like, I'm honored that he did my surgery. And because of him, I can do things I never thought I'd be able to do again -- like this:

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85 Comments
David VomLehn
10/1/2016 09:12:01 pm

Fascinating about the change in armpit odor and good that you managed to do something about it. I'm someone who seems to have less than normal sensitivity to most odors, which probably makes a sense of smell more interesting to me.

My guess is that you either managed to what was effectively a persistent and odor-emitting skin infection. Or, something used in the shoulder surgery affected your epigentics, which essentially switches genes off or on in the affected cells and thus affects the microorganisms living in that place. Or both. If I were ruler of the world I'd have someone sit down and take a look at this; it seems likely we'd learn something interesting!

Glad the shoulder, in its various aspects, is much improved!

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Eva Glasrud link
10/12/2016 02:14:17 pm

Thanks! I'm getting more confidence back every day, and just joined a new basketball league :)

I hadn't considered the epigenetics angle -- that's an interesting hypothesis!

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Lulu
8/13/2024 03:41:11 pm

Hi
I was told by a friend surgeon that the arnpit smell change was due to surgery of the bicep tendon as they often go under the armpit to work on it and damage sweat glands ...

Terri
2/22/2020 02:14:48 am

Wow, same issue for me after rotator cuff surgery. Just one horribly smelly armpit. Thanks for the information!!!!!

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Alexandra A Thompson link
3/9/2022 04:27:40 pm

I'm two weeks post SLAP tear and tendonesis surgery and joining the club! The left armpit is bizarre, like a whole hockey locker no matter what I wash with. just took dressing off. I am down with the microbiome transfer plan and am going to try it. But the thing that haunts me is that they had me wash all over (except groin) with hibiclens. I did as I was told even though I am utterly fascinated by microbiomes, love mine and all it's populations and even the way it smell (ed!!) (not bad). But I did the protocol because there is a higher risk of infection with tendonesis I have read and I was scared to end up with an infection in the bone. Anyway, do y'all think the darn hibiclens pre-op killed everything? My right armpit barely smells now. Maybe I will nurture the diversity, shower very moderately, and then do the re-population? Perhaps overthinking this but I'd be curious to know if anyone else had to do such a drastic antibacterial protocol and how it's turned out.

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Eva Glasrud link
3/15/2022 08:32:55 am

My thoughts on this are that washing all over with Hibiclens is not IDEAL for your microbiome, but your plan sounds good. I think your natural/original microbiome can come back everywhere... except possibly the arm you had surgery on, since you're not resuming normal activity with that one (the other one, you're still getting the air circulation, not keeping it in a sling, where it's hot and wet constantly with no air circulation.

I was not asked to do a drastic antibacterial protocol before my surgery.

Stinky Pit
2/26/2017 05:10:46 pm

I came across this blog post after I noticed my left armpit had a WAY worse smell after having surgery. I assumed it was because I was showering infrequently and/or there were something left behind from surgery that I couldn't fully wash out. Two and half weeks out from surgery and I've been able to shower regularly for about 5 days or so and I have come to the conclusion that my left armpit has a totally different (and much more unpleasant) stink.

I'm wondering if, after this much time, you have seen further improvements to your issue and/or if you found any new techniques? I totally buy the microbiome disruption since I guess they pretty much nuke what's there prior to surgery (I even had to use a special sponge the night before surgery on the left shoulder/pit), so I might go for the sweat transfer. Thanks for the interesting post!

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Eva Glasrud link
3/31/2017 09:23:30 am

It's been almost three years, and I wouldn't say it's completely back to normal... but it's improved. I keep surgical scrub by the shower in case of relapse, but mostly it's fine. When I travel in places that are hot and humid, I start to smell the weird bad smell again, but it goes back to (almost) normal once I get home and surgi-scrub it.

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one. :P

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Susie
5/15/2019 09:31:44 am

My left shoulder surgery was five months ago. I noticed “the smell” a few weeks ago.
Thanks for the shampoo tip and the sweat transference tip. I could not understand why deodorant and powder wasn’t working. With hot flashes too. I was worried about the smell but realized my right pit was fine. Put two and two together. I pray the tips work for me too.

rejuvonus avis link
2/27/2017 11:48:13 pm

Superbly written article, if only all bloggers offered the same content as you, the internet would be a far better place..

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Site link
4/21/2017 10:37:28 am

Hello, I need shoulder surgery and I was very scared about it. Your article helped me a lot, thank you very much.

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K W Crosby
5/26/2017 12:25:48 pm

So glad you're having good results from your surgery! (Hoping I do too)
The armpit thing is really weird -- and totally believable. I am a little over a week post-surgery and starting to notice a foreign smell in that armpit. I had rotator cuff surgery to repair a "full thickness" tear of the supraspinatus. So I;m stuck in this sling for 6 weeks too.
They had me use Hibiclens the night before surgery, so I still have some. Guess I'll try that.
Did you get a lot of itching and red areas while in your sling? My stitches are out and that area itches and so does the entire arm -- especially inside the elbow and down the forearm.

Well, thanks for your interesting post!

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Eva Glasrud link
5/30/2017 11:27:58 am

I don't remember having a lot of red areas -- just having my armpit feel warm and wet and uncomfortable all the time. I did have itching, but I always kind of assumed it was due to the armpit hair growing in + damp, dark, and still.

It might be worth washing your sling, even/especially if it has one of those pillow/cushion things. I'll bet sweat, etc. builds up over time, especially if you live somewhere humid. That could help with the irritation.

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Stephanie
6/9/2017 05:42:12 pm

I was so happy to come across your blog. I had total shoulder replacement surgery about 8 weeks ago. I have noticed a very unusual odor coming from my body that I have never smelled before. I was so glad to hear I'm not alone. Thank you so much for sharing.
Stephanie

Laurie Zapletal
6/3/2017 08:51:49 pm

I'm so glad to find your article. I had right shoulder surgery for a torn labrum among other fun issues 6 weeks ago And I'm so embarrassed by my odor. In that underarm. I wash up a few times a day and have changed my deodorant. No luck. I am especially embarrassed at physical therapy. I will try your washing methods and hope for the best.

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Denise
11/18/2019 07:37:02 pm

I had a full shoulder replacement ang I fractured my numerous in 4places and have pins going down my arm. I noticed a foul smell under my arm pit. I spoke to my doctor I bought a special deodorant but it didn’t t help. I put on deodorant and then take a cotton pad with Lemon on it and dab it under my arm. Works like a charm. But after 15 months post op still have so much pain on top os shoulder sand down are so bad, I can not pick up any thing with this arm. Can’t scrub can’t hang out clothes, does not function except to give pain

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Terri
3/24/2020 04:20:59 pm

Ouch! A great physical therapist is crucial after this surgery and for a few months! You have to do the isometric exercises to build strength in your arm while working on the stretching. So sorry!

Bog Brick
7/23/2017 11:24:18 pm

Probably the safest natural deodorant is lemon juice. Buy a fresh lemon, cut a slice, and squeeze it why applying to under arms after you get out of the shower. You may need to let the application dry, then apply and 2nd time to strengthen the dose. A former girlfriend swears by this.

If you do both sides with the same slice, probably do the "normal" side 1st, then the "problem" side in keeping w/ your theory of microbiome transfer.

-Bog

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Brenda
7/25/2017 10:37:10 am

I am so glad I came upon your article. I had major rotator cuff surgery 6 years this December on my right shoulder. To this day, I still have odor problems with that right armpit. I have said something to the doctor about this and there was really no serious response. I have ALWAYS thought that it was due to the surgery and aftermath thereof...so I am definitely going to try your suggestions. Never too late...I have also noticed that the odor tends to reappear more when that shoulder has pain or extreme stiffness. I found your blog very helpful. Thank you.

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suzanne
8/12/2017 05:03:39 pm

So glad I saw this, I had a bad fall onto my right side 5 days ago and I'm in a sling for a humerus fracture and today noticed this horrible odor, mainly the rt, like old rotten pizza, left side is almost normal. I also saw stress can cause this reaction and I am most definitely stressed!

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Jan
9/5/2017 11:38:27 am

Hi Eva,
I had spinal fusion two weeks ago. So far, I'm limited to daily walks (built up to 2.5 miles, so far). I'm now able to shower daily, but have noticed that "manly" odor under both armpits. It smells totally different than "me"... Now, mind you, I shower as soon as I return from my walk, use Mitchum SensitiveSkin and Shower to Shower Sports powder, which in the past, has ALWAYS worked, but by day's end, I wreak! It's not good when you can smell yourself!

I'm going to try your advice about using the Hibiclens (which I had to used for two days before my surgery) and also try the shampoo. It's worth a try! Glad I'm not the only one with this issue!

Thanks so much for this blog!

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Cat
9/16/2017 01:56:29 pm

I Googled "armpit stink in sling" and found this! I'm almost 3 weeks post surgery - labrum tear too - and my left pit smells like a cab driver who hasn't had a shower since the Regan administration. It's rather disturbing. I'm hoping it will lessen once I'm moving again but will follow your tips if not. Thanks for sharing - oh and you have a Ruby dog, and I have an Arthur cat. Bless them :)

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Sheilam
9/18/2017 10:25:58 am

About 3 years ago I broke my right collarbone. it healed ok, but about 6 months later I realized my right armpit really smelled bad. I tried so many deodorants it was ridiculous. Last month I decided to try Tom's Naturally Dry for women. Wow what a difference. It really works, maybe my post will help others.

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Dan
12/13/2017 11:55:05 am

I just had my shoulder surgery done last week. Same operation. I noticed that my right stout stinks even after I shower. I’m really bummed out about it because my body odor used to smell relatively good. I wish they tell you these things pre surgery. I’ll do whatever it takes to get back to normal. Any new breakthroughs let me know.

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Michelle
1/12/2018 01:32:33 pm

I had surgery approximately 10 months ago and the smell remains. I have wondered since surgery if that is what caused it, so today when I woke with that same odour I decided to see if I could find information on Google and here I am. While wearing the sling I did place a folded facecloth between my arm and torso due to a rash that appeared pretty quickly due to skin on skin which I hoped was the reason for this odour but it has not improved as yet.
Michelle

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Stella
12/29/2018 04:07:11 am

If you are still suffering try swabbing the armpit with rubbing alcohol, and letting it dry before proceeding with daily life. Also wipe down your deodorant stick with rubbing alcohol too... Kills off any remaining bacteria that will repopulate your pits And always apply deo to clean pits or you will get bacteria onto the deo stick which goes back onto you. A combo of alcohol swabbing one day, baby powder another day and deo another day helped me get rid of my post surgery scent

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Sanya
7/31/2018 06:47:20 am

Thank you. I had my rotator cuff to be injured and have suffered with the bad,different smell in my left armpit. I am going to try your methods

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Jennifer
8/6/2018 06:06:02 pm

OMG!! Thank you for the article...I never sweat under my armpits..don't need to wear deoderant..I had rotator cuff/bicep repair surgery in June and horrible odor under my right arm now...it is a sweaty too! And I've had my sling off now for 2 weeks! Even when I had my sling I showered often and washed under that arm multiple times a day ...I don't grow hair under my arms so that's not it...I hate that my right pit smells now!! I shower and it still smells!

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Jo
10/24/2020 05:18:47 pm

I was shopping with a friend today and kept smelling a strong odor under my left arm pit. I had fallen while running and tore 3 of the tendons off the bone and a bicep tendon. I waited 2 1/2 months for the surgery. This was because of insurance. I noticed the smell even before surgery. It made me think how dogs can smell cancer. The arm was sick so it smelled. It’s been 2 1/2 years since surgery. Two days ago I developed serious pain in my shoulder and the smell is back worse than ever. I am probably going for an MRI and hope something didn’t tear. When I first tore the tendons, I could only move my arm from the elbow down, while held agains my stomach so I don’t think it’s completely torn. I can move my arm.
Sorry for the long post. I just wonder if the injury itself can cause the odor.
Thank you for writing the article. Very informative and I will talk to my surgeon about it.
I also had a great surgeon and would do the surgery again. Saved my arm.

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Sonya Gaddy
9/7/2018 06:14:46 am

I had rotator cuff surgery a week ago and I too have that smell. I’m glad I found you guys’ responses cause I was using powders cause I noticed my right pit stayed sweaty. Looks to me we’re not the only ones who’s JUST NOW experienced this so maybe they should look into a solution for this problem, unless there isn’t one. But thanks for the information, I will be trying these.

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Michelle
9/8/2018 01:17:40 am

I would like to report that I am over 1 year since surgery and I have not noticed that unpleasant odour for a while now.

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Eddie Hobbs
9/22/2018 04:38:40 pm

Just had a 2nd surgery on my left shoulder 8/29/2018 (fixed my previous surgery from Navy days in 2005. The first surgery was due to instability, numerous dislocations, and there was no extreme bodily odor afterwards.

The 2nd surgery several weeks ago was an apparent success according to the doctors. I have a large scar frontal of my shoulder down nearly to my arm pit. After a few days the odor became noticeable. At first, I blamed it on everyone/everything besides myself. When I was able to wash under my arm for the first time it became obvious.

I cannot stand body odor smells, especially if it's coming from my own under arm. This brings back bad memories of overseas travelling. The smell of taking a taxi in the middle east, 130 degree weather, no air conditioner, sitting in the back seat as the wind is blowing the smell of the driver into your face for the entire ride.. My armpit, regardless of deodorant, washing, etc, now has this smell 24/7 although multiplied at least 10X.. Please let's find a cure...??

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Emilie
9/27/2018 07:26:17 pm

Definitely having this same experience. Not from surgery from fractured upper arm bone. Cannot get rid of it. I will try the lemon truck. Thanks

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Louise Lynn
11/17/2018 12:35:34 am

Glad that I stumbled across this blog. I didn't have surgery, but I had frozen shoulder - I basically my elbow was stuck to my waist for 6 agony-filled months. Several months of physio followed before I had a reasonable range of motion. After all that, I too found I had a completely different and most dreadful pit odor - only on that side. No amount of washing, scrubbing, what have you, has ever changed this. Can't wait to try your treatment

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jordan
12/22/2022 05:43:06 pm

Same for me after a frozen shoulder! Hopefully these tips will help!

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Carlito link
11/17/2018 04:02:08 pm

I also had the smell after rotator cuff surgery, I had to hang an odor-eater under my arm and sometimes the little C/xmas tree you hang in cars.

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Gail
11/23/2018 06:35:02 pm

THANK YOU for this post!! After 6 weeks in sling and 2 more weeks with little access to right armpit .... cannot believe the alien smell coming out of the pit. Will try some of the solutions posted. Wow - cannot believe googling armpit smell after shoulder sling brought up a result.

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anon
11/30/2018 11:21:30 am

I have this same funk but between by boobs :( i have no idea where I got it, no surgeries or anything. It "appeared" about 5 years ago. It legit smells worse than my underarms. I thought at first it was a skin yeast infection but that wasn't it, then I figured if it wasn't yeast it was some other bacteria and I started using Hibiclens between my boobs (only).
That's the only shit that keeps the smell at bay.... it's horrible!! Regular soap didn't worked, washing my bras daily (HA!), nothing. I'm glad I found something that works consistently, I do have to wash with it at least 2x a week to keep the smell down but if i do, i don't have major smell problems. It took me ~2 years to figure out what was happening, a real bummer to smell so terrible right under your nose, literally. :( I googled my symptoms consistently for those years but never found anything useful like this article! Thank you, it's clear folks have found it VERY helpful.

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Stella
12/29/2018 04:14:24 am

This is so well written and I wish I found it before my surgery. I almost talked myself out of getting it! Now I'm 3.5 weeks post op for a torn labrum and it does get better but man I'm sick of the sling. The first week my smell was so bad! at first I went to my go to microbiology fave, rubbing alcohol! I knew it would work but there was also moisture that made the area raw, so the rubbing alcohol daily irritated it. I snuck a razor in there to keep hair growth at bay as best I could,applied rubbing alcohol (yes it stung) for a few days. Then after the alcohol dried, I'd add baby powder. Getting the moisture under control was key! A couple weeks post op and I was back to normal deodorant and no stench.

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Kimberli
1/3/2019 11:51:55 pm

I'm happy to have found this blog. I noticed the armpit thing a few days after the surgery. I thought it was weird. I'm 2 weeks post shoulder surgery and start therapy Monday. I'm looking forward to raising my arm 🙃

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CJ
7/30/2019 01:17:24 pm

I have a VERY similar story! Same torn decision with the PT vs surgery for dislocations, same idea where it happened in my sleep and I made the decision there. I just had the Latarjet procedure done and am hoping for the best. I have a new smell in the pit that smells like a skunk ate too many onions. I'll give the hibicleans and transfer a shot since I never really had a bad smell like this before. Thank you!

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Heidi’s Master
8/29/2019 05:35:14 pm

I broke my upper arm bone, knocked the ice cream off the cone. Now have terrible BO under that arm. Asked my PT about it and she had no idea or suggestions. Will try some of these. Thx.

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DW
9/10/2019 06:02:34 am

OMG!! So glad to have found this! Not only have I ended up with stink armpit but an excessive amount of hair on my whole arm (the surgical arm). So very strange... definitely gonna try these methods out. Thank you!

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CC
9/10/2019 06:55:39 pm

I stumbled across this post and I am so glad to know that I am not alone in this. I keep joking to my husband that I'm smuggling a hamburger under my left arm because no matter how much deodorant I use, it smells under that pit more than it should. I'm going to try this tomorrow and see if this helps-thanks for sharing!
Also,just curious but did you also find your arm to be swollen a few inches larger for a while? I'm 3 months post op and my arm is literally 3 inches wider than the other arm and I can't find anything on this.

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Ralph
9/18/2019 07:57:59 pm

Okay, so I am completely at a loss to understand how shoulder surgery can change armpit sweating pattern and odor and I'm so thankful I found this blog. I had a full tear of my right rotator cuff with a detached bicep one year ago - surgery included installing a metal pin to reattach the bicep muscle, and a sling with the pillow to hold the arm out from the body for eight weeks, along with regular PT before and after the sling use ended. I noticed my right armpit sweating more while wearing the sling which seemed logical given the lack of motion and all that. I did get a yeast infection - both sides probably because of the stick deodorant used on both sides. That was easily cleared up with an OTC cream. Fortunately, even though I'm a big guy I've never had a pit sweating nor odor issue, really, and only ever used basic anti-antiperspirants. But now, even one year after surgery my right armpit sweats constantly and far more than the left which is unchanged from before surgery. Like before the surgery there is no strong odor, just the heavy perspiration in the right pit only. The surgery was arthroscopic so I don't get why the arm pit was affected.

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Sandra Jackson
10/21/2019 03:52:39 am

HI, I am an Aussie Registered Nurse I work in the OR have done for 3.5 decades. I tore my Left Shoulder in 2002 and had it fixed no problems, tore the left and right again in December last year when a patient went to fall and pulled on both my arms and the Right was totally torn and left partially. So I as a nurse thought I would be ok, I would be immune to any problems, so I in total have had 3 surgeries on my Right shoulder in the last 10 months. Now comes the bad bit,,,,,, oh my lordy,,,,, the rash, the sweat, I personally believe the surgery has affected my armpit at a cellular level and I get repeated rashes, itches and as a woman I have boobs, and the rash initially was under my right but over time now spreads to my left. I try everything powder, drying with a hair dryer to make sure I am super dry, hydrocortisone cream, anti fungal its just hopeless. Its debilitating as I see all you write also. SO I am in the Armpit club!!! If I ever find a magic cure, I will come back and post, but I am going to start to look to natural cures.

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sandra
11/7/2019 09:11:19 pm

Just to reply if anyone reads this,,,, I have had a flu, and rubbing in Australia a product called VIX on my chest, and I thought well put it under your arms and chest and see what happens

NO rash, cleared up and no matter how much I sweat if I have the chest rub on nothing can grow there,, the fungus and bugs don't like it,,, yehhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Robin
11/12/2019 05:49:09 pm

Same problem at 5 months post surgery and that armpit is horrendous. So bad I googled not expecting to find any help. Thanks for this article. I’m going to try your methods and click to be notified of new comments to this post!

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sandra
11/19/2019 01:45:39 am

Hi Robin, I don't know if you have a product called Pinetarsal, its a odd smelling old product but used widely for itchy type skin, similar to what we are suffering from, I bought a spray bottle of it and am washing in the shower with it then putting the Vicks rub on my skin, doing well still
cheers Sandra

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Rick Mason link
12/12/2019 10:21:53 am

Congratulations on your successful surgery, I'm glad to see you're back doing the things you love to do. I've had 2 left shoulder surgeries. The last surgeon told me the next surgery will require a replacement. There's no question that a bad shoulder changes your life and prevents you from doing the things you love, one of them being a good night sleep. That said, various sports, did quite a bit of damage to my dominant shoulder, torn labrum, bone spurs, damaged humerus and serious damage to the Glenoid.
I've experienced the exact same underarm odor discrepancy from my left to right side that you are describing, and I very much appreciate your recommendations of a solution.
I also recommend that anyone having a shoulder injury take care of it sooner than later. I regret waiting as long as I did, which resulted in a frozen shoulder the first time. When I look back at all the things that I missed in my life, I should have pursued it immediately.
The physical therapy after surgery is critical to retaining full motion. So folks should not think that the surgery alone will fix everything.
It wasn't the most serious health issue I've ever had, but I can honestly say it was the most painful and disruptive. Good luck to anyone out there headed in the same direction.
Thanks again Eva!

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Karen Brown
1/16/2020 07:36:33 pm

I found your article while exploring why, after shoulder surgery, my sweat in that pit smells like an unwashed, old man's crossed with rotten onions, while the rest of me is my normal, mildly perspiring little lady smell. Obviously, based on all the various articles, and your article's replies, this weird smell is not uncommon. My surgery scar goes into my pit. And I figured my sweat glands were just pissed off. My nurse says when the glands get irritated they get more musky. Glad to see how normal this is. Even lying here, my right pit is dry, and my left is flat out dripping. Thankfully, I can finally air it out.

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sandra
1/17/2020 08:03:14 pm

I have been using only the Pinetarsal wash on my body, I am now able to use under arm deodorant which I have been able to in a long time as it would stir up the rash. Its so hot in North Qld Australia at the moment and has been for months, and my rash has so totally gone from using this product I don't need the sticky ointments I had been having to use , I simply wash with the Pinetarsal every night and my skin is normal. Both my shoulders are still torn, my third op on my right shoulder was only a partial success but for me the loss of the rash is like winning the Lottery.

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Kate Madison
5/5/2020 09:08:55 am

I’ve damaged my rotator cuff & will start PT this week, but the rash & smell that’s developed in that armpit is crazy! I cannot lift the arm very high, so it’s nearly impossible to keep it dry at this point. My Dr says they’re not related. 🙄 Riiiiight.

Two things to consider: The lymph nodes in & around the armpit are affected by damage to the arm/ shoulder. I’ve begun an “armpit detox” (including a lymph cleanse) that’s, thankfully, already helping. Google will lead you to a ton of detoxes. I don’t like to put a bandaid on things, so I’m attempting to address the (what I assume could be) root issue. I’d imagine in surgery, the lymph nodes could be damaged or even removed. This would have a big impact on your microbiome.

Also, to the poster that mentioned increased hair growth on the affected arm... in adoption circles, it’s not uncommon for foreign orphans to come home emaciated & covered in hair. It’s the body’s way of keeping a starving body warm. Sounds random? Just hang on... if your muscle atrophied a bit amidst your arm troubles, it would stand to reason your body triggered the hair growth in the absence of good health. And loss of good blood circulation could be a contributing factor in that as well.

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Aaron
5/23/2020 08:50:00 pm

This blog was a life saver. I had surgery on my left shoulder and developed a horrible smell in my left armpit. Unfortunately I didn't know what caused it and made the mistake of using the same stick of deodorant on both arms for several days. The toxic smell made the jump to my right pit. So by the time I found this blog I couldn't do the sweat transfer from the "normal" pit to the changed one. But the good news is I was able to kill 95% of the smell using this formula. 2 weeks straight using Hibiclens followed by shampoo when showering. Clean and rinse one pit before switching. 2 additional weeks using a anti-bacterial hand soap followed by shampoo. This seemed to do the trick - the smell subsided and I was able to continue just using shampoo. If I get any whiff of the smell coming back - say after a workout - I'll use the anti-bacterial hand soap for a few days to get it back in check, and I'm good to go. Hope this helps anyone dealing with this, it's a very frustrating issue to have post surgery!

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Christian
8/4/2020 01:50:21 pm

Glad to know I'm not the only one! I've got a bunch of abdominal pads laying around, so I'm going to start wearing one. Need to get some foot powder I guess. I had some persistent rubbing (I had a biceps tenodesis done, and some others, so I've got an incision almost in the arm pit) near an incision, so this is smell and pain management! I'm definitely looking to prevent infection as well as keep the smell away. Almost 3 weeks post surgery right now.

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Cy
9/5/2020 10:17:34 am

Thanks for info. My situation is I broke my Right shoulder / no surgery. I am having the BO problem in my LEFT armpit!!! At first I thought it was because I could reach my pits well with the break but it has been 6 mos and I still get the bo on one side Eccles without much exertion! Like overnight sleeping I will have it emerge!

Help! Thanks

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Saul Varga
10/15/2020 05:42:47 am

Thank you! I just had a repair and I’m pretty active and have been wondering about this! Going to try your recommendations! Great article.

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sandra
10/24/2020 10:17:18 pm

I think its the immobility of the shoulder and we don't use the arm properly and air that ol arm pit out,,, I haven't had the problem since using the pinetarsal and for me the problem in my shoulder remains, I have to have a total shoulder replacement but just a bit too young technically... I am an x or RN... cheers all

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Matt
4/7/2021 02:56:39 pm

Here is a new idea to note: I have shoulder pain on one side. I have had NO surgeries or work done on it at all. Doctor says it's just strained and will resolve on it's own. I don't do anything different than I had ever done before and am usually sedentary anyway (desk jockey). The side with the pain has a bad onion odor that is not on the good side. No slings or anything else. I am wondering if the source of the odor is internal from some issue, perhaps bursa, that may be exuding to the surface somehow. Any ideas on that?

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Chelly
6/12/2021 05:01:20 pm

Thank you for posting
I’m excited in finding this info and reading about every ones comments.
This subject really needs more research into Stinky armpit syndrome and some brilliant person out there hopefully will be on to this stinkiness.
So I haven’t done anything outstanding to my rht shoulder except I’ve damaged it over time with work
I was diagnosed with tendinitis in rht shoulder plus an impingement and a rotator cuff calcification in supraspinatus
And now have stinky armpit syndrome to impact my daily life.
I just have to remember to keep my armpit down when in company.
Is my body imbalanced and is it trying to heal itself with this funky smell I don’t know but now I am equipped with everyone’s comments and I’m now going to give stinky armpit syndrome a good wipe down. Thanks you all.

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Karen
6/25/2021 08:48:56 am

I broke my left shoulder five days ago and noticed the smell last night. No surgery required, no cast even, but the arm has been in a sling so I just assumed it was a lack of airflow. Now I think I'm in for a longer haul with this part of it. Thanks for the tips!

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Anne M. Moran
8/25/2021 09:53:00 pm

I really enjoyed your description of everything that happened and how you addressed the problem. I am so happy to learn that I am not alone with my foul smelling armpit! I am about 4 weeks out from a comminuted fracture of the proximal humerus in the ball at top of arm bone. I didn't sweat before and basically had no odor. Since the breaks tho, the armpit on the same side is sweaty and really nasty smelling. I haven't had surgery and PT is supposed to start very soon. Thanks for your suggestions and others as well. Funny how many people have same problem,! Joy in numbers I guess.

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Susan
9/27/2021 06:37:59 pm

I broke my shoulder two weeks ago. No surgery yet as it is aligned. Retake of x-Ray in two weeks. In a sling and the armpit oder is present and strong. So maybe not from surgery but from injury itself. Great blog and will start recommendations ASAP.

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Robin
10/22/2021 02:21:02 pm

I googled about armpit issue after shoulder tear and came across this discussion. I have not yet had surgery and am dealing with a wet and itchy armpit. Maybe it is because of the tear of my supraspinatus and not the result of surgery. I will have my surgery in December.

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Annelle
10/29/2021 08:13:08 am

Your blog entry is clearly a gift that keeps on giving. I have had similar issues with weird BO after surgery or an extended illness. But never have I had such a limit to my shower mobility as with this current non-operative, not displaced, humeral head fracture. I can’t wait to try the axilla transfer. I can’t use hibiclens or any chlorhexadine product due to an allergy. And I use only natural, handmade soaps (for body and shampoo). But this is fun info. Thanks for shining a light in such a dark place! :-)

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Sandy
11/6/2021 07:01:13 am

I had surgery on my right proximal humerus in May and have dealt with horribly smelly pits since. It started in the right pit, and now I realize I most likely transferred it to my left pit - it is not as strong there, but there, none the less. The PTs have all said they do not notice it, but I sure do, whenever I raise my arm. Or, if, heaven forbid I rub my armpit to scratch it my hand smells for an hour afterwards even after washing! The other thing I have noticed is a discoloration under my pits, as well. Reminds me of the yellow stain you get on white shirts. I suspect part of it is an issue with anesthesia. For some reason I had not considered this being an issue of bacteria. I will follow some of the suggestions here and see if that corrects the problem. Thank you for being transparent about your experience!

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Nan
11/9/2021 09:12:48 pm

I was looking for an explanation why my left armpit has developed a
bad case of body order but not my right. I have a rotator cuff tear. When I went to see about having it repaired, I was told that my shoulder joint is worn out and there would be no point in repairing the rotator cuff until my joint was replaced. Due to health issues of my husband I have delayed surgery. As my shoulder becomes increasingly painful and less mobile, I have developed the same odor problem as the others who have responded to this blog. I have found their experiences and suggestions to be logical and helpful. Thank you.

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Lynnie
1/1/2022 05:30:37 pm

Eva- Thank you so much for posting about your experience! I had Bankart surgery for my dislocation and lateral tear three months ago and was in a sling for 6 weeks. I noticed a horrible smell from my surgery shoulder after getting out of. my sling and so did my husband. It's been so embarrassing to me and I thought I was going crazy, since I've never had body odor like this (similar to a stinky onion). It's been two months now that I've been out of my sling and I can still smell the smell from time to time when I perspire. I've been reading everyone's comments and suggestions and feel like there may finally be some hope for me:) Thank you so much!

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Lori
1/3/2022 04:28:40 pm

I had full left shoulder replacement May, 2021. My left armpit has had consistent BO ever since. Nothing gets rid of the smell. I scrub the armpit with soap but still stinks. I've even tried using shampoo instead of bar soap. Didn't work. Have bought cleansing wipes for my armpit which I use several times a day. I can always smell it so I'm sure others can too. Am having some trouble understanding your remedy.

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Maria-Stella Fountoulakis
1/4/2022 12:42:34 pm

Rubbing alcohol day and night! Soaps that are unscented and don't have "moisturizers" and no deodorants. This should kill off the bacteria and stop them from growing.

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Julissa
5/18/2022 10:07:09 am

Thank you for this post. I thought I was losing my mind after my shoulder surgery. I use Hibiclens in the shower and Lume after drying my underarm with the blow dryer. The smell is gone!

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alex
6/28/2022 01:12:34 am

Has anyone tried activated charcoal for this?

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Dawn
7/17/2022 01:13:36 pm

This is going to sound really weird, but keeping a wad of clean tissues in the affected armpit all day actually helps tremendously. I needed surgery after fracturing my right shoulder and noticed that my right armpit was constantly damp and starting to smell bad and somewhat musty.

My husband suggested the tissue wad, and I scoffed at first, but gave it a try since I had no better ideas and did not want to have to deal with a yeast infection on top of healing from the surgery. I crumple up a couple of tissues to create some air pockets, then wrap it in another tissue so that it's more comfortable.

I change the tissues at least once a day, and more often if I do anything that makes me sweat. It's nearly 3 weeks post surgery. I have no more dampness under my arm and no stink.

Before using the tissues for the first time, I wiped my armpit out with a paper towel soaked in rubbing alcohol to kill any yeast that may have already started. Since then, I haven't needed to apply any more alcohol. I will continue to use these tissue wads all day, every day until my sling comes off. Good luck to all!

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Krystal Germiquet
7/25/2022 09:44:52 am

I didn't have shoulder surgery, but am having the same problem after a year of frozen shoulder. I am so glad I found this & some other articles with the same issue!! I thought it was just me.

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bpg
10/22/2022 08:26:13 am

I had slap tear repair March 2021 and still having the same issue. I have used a natural deodorant for years now and have almost stopped sweating altogether but my left started sweating like I’ve been in a sauna and the odor is-wow. It’s insane. I started using the Hibiclens I got for pre op and it helps some. I think I’ll try the microbiome transfer. I did have about 8 months of prolonged therapy for nerve problems. As a worker’s compensation case, they took their sweet time and my bicep felt like it was hanging on by a thread. I had to wear a sling for like 5 months pre operation to function. Immediate relief with surgery, even with all the nerve problems. Thankfully I’m fully recovered with minimal range of motion lost that improves little by little.

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Christine
1/29/2023 09:53:42 am

I had rotator cuff surgery on my right shoulder 5 years ago for a completely severed tear. That delayed PT initially and because of that fine line “damned if you do, damned if you don’t, I ended up with frozen shoulder. PT almost a year! No odor issues.
I just had same surgery left shoulder. Less of a tear. Started PT one week out for massage and stimulation mostly. Two weeks later noticed this horrible odor under surgery arm only. I was told to wash surgical area with Hibiclens daily 3 days prior to surgery. I don’t recall having to do that 5 years ago. I hindered chalked it up to more infections(staph etc) since Covid. I’m wondering if taking away the bacteria ahead is what messes up our system?
I’m a believer in not using antibacterial hand soaps and countertop cleans etc as it depletes our natural immunity.
This was a helpful article. Good to know I’m not losing my mind. I will share with my orthopedic doctor and my PT.

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sharon
2/6/2023 03:14:46 pm

if u have a stinky pit..just dip a
cottonball in apple cider vinegar and saturate your stinky armpit with it for a few days in a row it will neutralize any odor naturally

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Alex
5/3/2023 06:51:58 pm

I just had probably a similar surgery about 2 weeks ago. I was hoping the different smell was just because of the sling. I’ve been hesitant to use the pre surgical shampoo very hesitant of my good bacteria. I’ll give this a shot on the one pit. I can’t believe this changes even after the sling is off for a while. That will be interesting when I get back to the gym and sports. Thanks for sharing the photos, gives me a lot of hope that I’ll be back to it too with no fear of dislocations.

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RoseMary Keene
6/22/2023 11:57:29 am

So glad I happened across this blog. I had right shoulder surgery last Nov where he fixed 6 things (rotator cuff tear, labrum tear, arthritis, etc) and just the past few weeks have noticed the BO from that armpit. I smell like a man who has just run a 20 mule team in 50 acres. I’ve never, ever had a body odor issue and this is quite bothersome. I use hibicleans, since I read this blog, a deodorizing powder to keep dry, Mitchum deodorant, and it’s not working. No one mentioned this prior to surgery! I’ll try the lemon and apple cider vinegar to see if those will help.

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Emily
7/8/2023 02:41:42 pm

I saw a few articles about Hibiclens, but I’m so glad I read through these comments for additional suggestions! I literally want to gag every time I get a whiff of my left armpit (2 weeks post-op). I asked my mom this morning, and she said when we were in the car she smelled it a little too. I can’t drive but am about to see if I can get some lemons and some other things mentioned above delivered.

Thank you for writing this post and to everyone else who has given their experiences/suggestions!

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Mary Huebner
4/18/2024 12:35:14 am

I was in an accident and had my rotator cuff completely torn. A few weeks later, I noticed that the same armpit smelled like bad BO. My daughter thought I was crazy so I googled torn rotator cuff and BO And your article came up. My surgery is Monday and now I’m not afraid to mention it to my doctor.

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Trisha link
8/15/2024 09:08:20 pm

After re-wording and Googling this topic numerous times, so glad I happened upon this site. So much information and insight. You do start to ask yourself, “What’s going on with the extremely musty and persistent smell from one armpit?”
I had bicep tendinosis surgery (on my left shoulder) 9 months ago. I don’t know if it was triggered by the extremely hot and humid summer we’re having, but the smell began about 2 months ago.
No amount of showering, wipes, 2 types (layered) deodorant
has kept the odor at bay. I’m going try some of the suggestions here… beginning with the apple cider vinegar swab. Thanks for everyone’s input! There’s definitely more going on than just decreased air circulation to the affected arm’s pit!

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Cindy rende
2/11/2025 07:47:14 pm

So glad you wrote about this. I had a Melanoma removed on shoulder in 2011. Can't remember when the BO got bad but the last 2 years were very stinky, just that one. Here it's 2025 in the dead of winter & I've had to wash my coat twice in a short time. I will try some of the suggestions & hope for the best. I started to wonder if the cancer was back & inside me this time. Thank you all for sharing your stories & suggestions. My doctor had no idea the cause & surgeons should let you know there could be an odor problem after any surgeries near the armpit. I love Stove Top stuffing but rarely indulge now or I will stink to high heaven for a week or more needing to wash that armpit many times during the day. Hope some of the early posters found relief by now.

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Jen M
2/27/2025 08:30:23 pm

I love that this article was written in 2016 and people are still stumbling across it and finding it useful in 2025! And SO many people...who knew I had so much company for this weird ailment? Post rotator cuff surgery, so confused by the smell of my own body, it's really thrown me. But this article and the comment section has really helped. So thanks, everyone!

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